Blackwater founder discussed trade, terrorism with Russian banker, interview transcript says

Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater Worldwide.


By KAROUN DEMIRJIAN AND ADAM ENTOUS | The Washington Post | Published: December 7, 2017

Erik Prince, a supporter of the Trump campaign and the former head of the security firm Blackwater, told congressional investigators that he discussed trade relations and countering terrorism with a close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin during a meeting in the Seychelles earlier this year, according to a newly-released transcript of the interview.

Prince told investigators last week that Kirill Dmitriev, the head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, told him during the Jan. 11 meeting that "he wished trade would resume with the United States in a normal way."

Prince responded by telling Dmitriev that "if Franklin Roosevelt could work with Josef Stalin to defeat Nazi fascism, certainly the United States could work with Vladimir Putin to defeat Islamic fascism."

The meeting in the Seychelles has drawn scrutiny as one of several interactions Trump associates had with Russian officials during the campaign and transition.

Prince told congressional investigators that he was a donor to Trump's campaign who later submitted policy papers to members of the president-elect's transition team.

As head of Russia's sovereign wealth fund, Dmitriev reports to Putin.

Prince said his meeting with Dmitriev came up at the last minute and at the suggestion of crown prince of Abu Dhabi, Mohammed bin Zayed, who Prince said invited him to the Seychelles - though he said he could not remember when or who from Zayed's staff extended the invitation. The crown prince is widely known as MBZ.

Prince also said he did not remember when or where he had a conversation with White House chief strategist Steve Bannon in which Bannon told Prince he had met MBZ in New York in December, just weeks before Prince traveled to the Seychelles. Prince said Bannon vouched for MBZ during the conversation, calling him "a great guy."

Prince said he never told Bannon about meeting Dmitriev, and could not recall if he ever told Bannon about his meeting with MBZ.

The Washington Post in April reported Prince's meeting in the Seychelles with an unidentified Russian close to Putin.

In the House Intelligence Committee interview, Prince alleged that the Post was leaked U.S. intelligence about the meeting and claimed that he was improperly "unmasked" by former officials. The Post attributed its April story to U.S., European and Arab officials. Prince refused during the interview to identify those who he claimed told him that he had been unmasked.

The committee's top Democrat, California Rep. Adam Schiff, complained in a statement that Prince was "less than forthcoming" with information, concluding that committee Republicans "must compel Prince to testify on these matters" - particularly because the GOP has been acutely focused on finding the source of government leaks.

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